Thursday, April 12, 2012

Fly into Rome but back to San Francisco from ParisJune 2007

It appears that flying into Rome and out of Paris is much more expensive than flying in and out of the same City? Is there something I am not aware of. I, my wife and our daughter are planning on flying to Rome in June, 2007, staying a week there and off to Venice for several days, and then to Paris. We are planning on taking the train to Venice and perhaps using %26#39;MYAIR%26#39; to fly to Paris.



We are on a tight budget and would appreciate any cost saving advice ( and of course any other suggestions) you can offer us. Thank you.




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Nowadays the %26quot;rationale%26quot; of airline ticketing seems quite foggy, but I would have thought that, once you cross the Atlantic and you remain with the same carrier/alliance (easy in this case, Alitalia and AF being part of SkyTeam), this kind of continental open jaw is the same as, say, an SFO-CDG-SFO flight. Probably American contributors on this board would have some first hand experience on this. I know that, the other way round, I made many a CDG-Chicago-Dulles-CDG flight that was considered as a plain return ticket. Even AF, not the most flexible of airlines, allowed me to arrive in Rio and fly back from Buenos Aires, and this was considered as a normal return flight.



Otherwise, the means of transport you have chosen for the Rome-Venice-Paris leg are the most convenient and the cheapest, so you can%26#39;t do better on these ones!




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I agree with Bob_S. Flying %26quot;open jaw%26quot; as it is called is not at all an unheard of thing. Generally when flying open jaw from the US to Europe I have found the fare to be somewhere between the RT fare to the more expensive city and the RT fare to the less expensive city. In the case of SFO-CDG and SFO-FCO I would not expect there to be much of a difference.



Where are you getting your information that leads you to suspect that flying to Rome and home from Paris is significantly more expensive than flying RT to either city? And, if you don%26#39;t mind our asking, approximately what fare are you being quoted and what are your travel dates?




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I was able to book a very resonable fare for my grandson and I. We are flying to Paris, then taking the night train (with sleeping berths) to Rome. With flights, hotels, train fare, and three tours in Paris and two in Rome it came in at just over $ 4000. try www.europeandestinations.com. or e mail me at rlc1803@aol.com.





Have a great trip.




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I had gone on-line and was checking with various airlines to obtain the airline costs, which I do not specifically recall, but which exceeded $2800 per person - air fare only. I will certainly investigate %26#39;europeandestinations.com%26#39;. I must plead ignorance with respect to the acronyms sfo-cdg-sfo. Could this mean San Francisco-Charles DeGaulle-San Francisco?



I appreciate all the valuable information everyone is sending. Thank you




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Yep, you%26#39;re right about the acronyms! About your fare problem, there are times in our modern world when it is still useful to talk to an actual human being to solve some thorny issues. So I think that an old fashioned, flesh and blood, travel agent would give you a reasonable fare on your open jaw in no time at all.




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$2800??? NO WAY!!!



I just did a quick search on the American Airlines site, not because AA is my favourite airline but because I am familiar with their site and it is fairly user-friendly and I can find fares very quickly.



Using the arbitrary dates of June 5 and June 19. Here is what I found.



Flying SFO-JFK-LHR-FCO and CDG-JFK-SFO the fare is $1159.



If you don%26#39;t mind flying Iberia (an AA Partner airline) you can fly SFO-ORD-MAD-FCO and return CDG-MAD-JFK-SFO for $1005.



Not that these are the best connections you could find, but they will give you some idea what this trip *should* cost.



Now armed with this information, any good travel agent should be able to find similar fares and, one would hope, a better routing. Bottom line, if a travel agent can%26#39;t find you a decent routing for less than half your $2800 they are not doing a very good job IMO.



BTW, LHR is London Heathrow, ORD is Chicago O%26#39;Hare, MAD is Madrid, and JFK I assume you can figure out.



Good luck!




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Oops! I forgot to mention that the fares i gave you did not include taxes. These should be no more than about $250 which is how I came up with the $1400 figure. I didn%26#39;t take the next step in the booking process to find the full fares including taxes.




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Having said that I did have one more look for you and the taxes I am seeing are actually around $100, much less than I suggested, so yes, you should be able to find a fre for well under $1400 through a good TA.




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We are doing basically the same trip as you in June %26#39;07 ( Denver-Rome, Paris to Denver) and have been monitoring prices. We%26#39;re coming up with similar prices to what Irish found. We%26#39;ve tried different combinations and dates to lower the price (we are a family of 5) but nothing is coming down. June is the start of the high tourist season and the pricing reflects that. Sorry!




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We%26#39;re doing a similar trip in March, DAB (Daytona Beach) - CDG, CDG - FCO, FCO - DAB. Initially, I was looking at flying into Rome and out of Paris, but on a lark I reversed the itinerary and the fare was cheaper!



Also, I had planned to use a discount intra-Europe air carrier between Paris and Rome and was finding the times extremely inconvenient and the prices not really all that cheap. So, I used the multi-destination search, included that flight in my total itinerary, and got a fare of $712 for all flights, all taxes incl. This was several weeks ago, and now I%26#39;m seeing the same itinerary has gone up nearly $400!



Anyway, play around with things a bit, you never know what you%26#39;ll find. And good luck!

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