A friend sent me the following link to %26quot;sensitive urban zones%26quot; in France, which include Paris (if you scroll to 75 you%26#39;ll see the Paris areas):
i.ville.gouv.fr/divbib/doc/chercherZUS.htm
It has click through maps where you can see the areas in question. Are these areas slated for urban renewal help or are they just being designated as undesirable? There are a lot of places on this list with I would imagine, millions of inhabitants...
Anyone?
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%26gt;%26gt; Are these areas slated for urban renewal help %26lt;%26lt;
These are areas targeted by a urban renewal program. The above list is the 1996 one. Do you really think an official government department would label parts of France as %26quot;undesirable%26quot; ?
I actually live in one of these zones (but I wasn%26#39;t even aware of it, since the area is very gentrified).
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I wasn%26#39;t sure what it meant, so that%26#39;s why I asked. Also the term %26#39;sensitive urban zones%26#39; can be misinterpreted.
The next question is that since this is from 1996, does anyone know if these areas in Pars and elsewhere been rehabilitated at all? I know some of the areas I am familiar with are still pretty run down...
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Sorry above should read %26#39;Paris%26#39; and not %26#39;Pars%26#39;
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%26gt;%26gt; The next question is that since this is from 1996, does anyone know if these areas in Pars and elsewhere been rehabilitated at all? %26lt;%26lt;
Inside Paris, all of them are being or have already been rehabilitated, either by political action or by the %26quot;washer%26quot; phenomenon which sees upper middle class people moving to surrounding areas in search of decent housing prices.
For the worst of themn, alas, no, and the last 4 years of government have been very dire years for urban action. As an example, many of these zones don%26#39;t have any more police stations, instead, they are crammed with riot police when the tension is high.
The much unfamed Clichy sous Bois never had a police station, nor an ANPE (employment administration). La Courneuve, where a killing triggered Sarkozy%26#39;s (Interior Minister) %26quot;Kärcher%26quot; words, has seen its police forces decrease by 70 since 2002.
I could go on and on, but I%26#39;m afraid it%26#39;d be too political for TA.
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Thanks SHD, I appreciate it. I did some of my studies on the suburb tenements outside of Paris so that is why this interests me.
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On the French wikipedia site, you can find some interesting links to more recent government reports about ZUS:
fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_urbaine_sensible
I think %26quot;sensible%26quot; here just means %26quot;requiring special attention%26quot;.
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Jan is right. The %26quot;sensible%26quot; (sensitive) qualification is part of typical Newspeak to designate areas whose social indicators are way below national average, in terms of unemployment, crime, transport, income, etc. These areas are the focus of special measures, such as %26quot;zones franches%26quot; (free trade areas), with much lower taxes for businesses, special education programmes, etc. Having said that, as SHD pointed out, Clichy sous Bois has no police station, no ANPE (job center, unfortunate for an area with heavy unemployment), no métro or RER, so there is still a long way to go.
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Very interesting list. For my department the areas noted are still considered %26quot;sensitive%26quot; zones. In the five years I have lived here, I haven%26#39;t noticed any positive changes in these areas. Since I don%26#39;t live in them, there could be improvements that are not evident. I find this very sad as it shows the lack of action on the part of French authorities.. A bit of help in these areas could go a long way in improving the social situation.
Though I think this subject is most informative and addresses many tourist questions, I am waiting for the thread to be removed by TA.
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TO Toutou
%26quot;I find this very sad as it shows the lack of action on the part of French authorities. A bit of help in these areas could go a long way in improving the social situation%26quot;
Change not being visible from the outside does not mean a lot of public money is not invested in those areas, such as knocking down the 60%26#39;s and 70%26#39;s housing estates and replacing them with more %26quot;human size%26quot; housing, new public transport projects such as trams, sports facilities, etc. But the problem is primarily economic.
If you take the exemple of the Seine-Saint-Denis departement, which stretches roughly between CDG and Paris, an underpriviledged area with a heavy concentration of those %26quot;sensitive urban areas%26quot;, it is paradoxically a booming territory with a lot of businessesincidentally producing a lot of corporate tax (local authrorities have significant financial ressources ) with a sociologically poor population, as the wealth generated locally does not really benefit local people.
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Right,Trudaine, but the press is full of articles about corporate HQs moving to the 93 département, without employing local people (there was a piece in Libé this Monday), for good and bad reasons. Only 20 % of CDG employees live in the 93 for instance.
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